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		<title>By: Angela Connor</title>
		<link>http://blog.angelaconnor.com/2008/12/05/whats-your-take-on-the-90-9-1-theory/#comment-2696</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Angela Connor]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 29 Nov 2009 03:13:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Hi there &lt;strong&gt;Miles&lt;/strong&gt;: I completely agree with you on the value of lurkers. You&#039;re right. They do still talk about their actions even if they are not fully immersed in the community. I like that perspective. You know, so many do end up taking the plunge after a good while. It&#039;s just at their own pace. I try to take specific actions to lure lurkers into doing more and certain tactics work. But some will forever remail lurkers but that doesn&#039;t mean we discount them. Now, I am going to check out some of your websites. 
Best, 
Angela]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi there <strong>Miles</strong>: I completely agree with you on the value of lurkers. You&#8217;re right. They do still talk about their actions even if they are not fully immersed in the community. I like that perspective. You know, so many do end up taking the plunge after a good while. It&#8217;s just at their own pace. I try to take specific actions to lure lurkers into doing more and certain tactics work. But some will forever remail lurkers but that doesn&#8217;t mean we discount them. Now, I am going to check out some of your websites.<br />
Best,<br />
Angela</p>
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		<title>By: Miles Maker</title>
		<link>http://blog.angelaconnor.com/2008/12/05/whats-your-take-on-the-90-9-1-theory/#comment-2695</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Miles Maker]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 29 Nov 2009 01:24:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The 90-9-1 concept is a sobering reality--especially for those of us currently crowdfunding our projects to raise money for Artistic ventures, nonprofits organizations, causes, etc.  However I believe passive players (lurkers) still talk about what they see, hear and encounter to other people, and although we can&#039;t always quantify their contribution, I believe the long-term effect benefits sustainable growth by word of mouth for any brand, product or cause.  

90-9-1 is an open challenge to do more and do better!  Thanks for sharing @communitygirl 

Miles Maker
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The 90-9-1 concept is a sobering reality&#8211;especially for those of us currently crowdfunding our projects to raise money for Artistic ventures, nonprofits organizations, causes, etc.  However I believe passive players (lurkers) still talk about what they see, hear and encounter to other people, and although we can&#8217;t always quantify their contribution, I believe the long-term effect benefits sustainable growth by word of mouth for any brand, product or cause.  </p>
<p>90-9-1 is an open challenge to do more and do better!  Thanks for sharing @communitygirl </p>
<p>Miles Maker<br />
Writer/Director of &#8220;Brown Baby&#8221; (2010)<br />
The totally FREE movie you can share, remix, re-use and rediscover!<br />
DONATE on IndieGoGo:  <a href="http://www.indiegogo.com/brown-baby" rel="nofollow">http://www.indiegogo.com/brown-baby</a><br />
&#8220;Brown Baby&#8221; Website  <a href="http://www.brownbabymovie.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.brownbabymovie.com</a><br />
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		<link>http://blog.angelaconnor.com/2008/12/05/whats-your-take-on-the-90-9-1-theory/#comment-2670</link>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Nov 2009 03:16:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: The n-word, marketing mistakes and the death of the press release: My top posts from 2008 &#171; Online Community Strategist</title>
		<link>http://blog.angelaconnor.com/2008/12/05/whats-your-take-on-the-90-9-1-theory/#comment-1298</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[The n-word, marketing mistakes and the death of the press release: My top posts from 2008 &#171; Online Community Strategist]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 24 May 2009 12:32:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Angela Connor</title>
		<link>http://blog.angelaconnor.com/2008/12/05/whats-your-take-on-the-90-9-1-theory/#comment-412</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Angela Connor]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Dec 2008 20:59:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Mike: Thanks for your additional insight on that and sharing your thoughts and experiences. In regards to using the principal to talk to clients, I completely see your point. You mention tangible objectives that are &quot;measurable&quot; and that&#039;s good to hear. How are you educating those who say that social media metrics aren&#039;t tangible?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mike: Thanks for your additional insight on that and sharing your thoughts and experiences. In regards to using the principal to talk to clients, I completely see your point. You mention tangible objectives that are &#8220;measurable&#8221; and that&#8217;s good to hear. How are you educating those who say that social media metrics aren&#8217;t tangible?</p>
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		<title>By: Angela Connor</title>
		<link>http://blog.angelaconnor.com/2008/12/05/whats-your-take-on-the-90-9-1-theory/#comment-411</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Angela Connor]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Dec 2008 20:56:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Alison: I like that strategy and I think I&#039;m going to implement it myself. We do have those posts that pull in everyone and I suppose that closer examination of the comments would reveal some lurkers who have come around to join the conversation &quot;on the record.&quot; I&#039;d love to talk to you more about your community of 140,000. That&#039;s amazing!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Alison: I like that strategy and I think I&#8217;m going to implement it myself. We do have those posts that pull in everyone and I suppose that closer examination of the comments would reveal some lurkers who have come around to join the conversation &#8220;on the record.&#8221; I&#8217;d love to talk to you more about your community of 140,000. That&#8217;s amazing!</p>
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		<title>By: Alison Michalk</title>
		<link>http://blog.angelaconnor.com/2008/12/05/whats-your-take-on-the-90-9-1-theory/#comment-376</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Alison Michalk]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Dec 2008 07:31:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I&#039;ve always found this principle to be quite accurate with the community of 140,000 that I manage. And is almost certainly true if you include unregistered users. 

I  look at in terms of 10% of members participating with 1% being VERY active.

I agree with Scott&#039;s point #1, this approach has seen our membership (ergo activity) increasing rapidly over the last 12 months.

Activating existing members is a hard metric to report on but still something worth trying also. As a Community Manager I often pay attention to popular or contentious threads that lure lurkers into posters (they&#039;d be the people with low post counts but not a new membership). Incidentally I find blog comments are good for this as the interaction is slightly more two-directional, and therefore some ease into it better/find it less daunting as a participant.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve always found this principle to be quite accurate with the community of 140,000 that I manage. And is almost certainly true if you include unregistered users. </p>
<p>I  look at in terms of 10% of members participating with 1% being VERY active.</p>
<p>I agree with Scott&#8217;s point #1, this approach has seen our membership (ergo activity) increasing rapidly over the last 12 months.</p>
<p>Activating existing members is a hard metric to report on but still something worth trying also. As a Community Manager I often pay attention to popular or contentious threads that lure lurkers into posters (they&#8217;d be the people with low post counts but not a new membership). Incidentally I find blog comments are good for this as the interaction is slightly more two-directional, and therefore some ease into it better/find it less daunting as a participant.</p>
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		<title>By: Mike Rowland</title>
		<link>http://blog.angelaconnor.com/2008/12/05/whats-your-take-on-the-90-9-1-theory/#comment-371</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Mike Rowland]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Dec 2008 21:25:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[As I&#039;ve posted on our blog and on Jake&#039;s, I&#039;m not so sure we should even be using this as a principle in talking to potential clients. The ratios we&#039;ve seen and measured since 2000 are much different than this. There are far too many variables that come into play to make such a simplistic comment to someone considering a social media project.

Even Joe Cothrel who used our data from work with Cisco, Sony, AARP, SAP, and others in his research at Participate.com would admit that it&#039;s a stretch to over-simplify community participation rates like this.

Instead, we should be focused upon how the offering (blog, community, social network, wiki, etc.) helps the client meet a tangible objective that is measurable. Then put that objective against the benchmarks of your other clients&#039; work from a similar industry and effort to judge its effectiveness.

Where I do agree completely with Jake is that there is distribution of who participates and who consumes. But there is not a quick ratio that works for this stuff. Your mileage will always vary.

For more see our blog at http://impactinteractions.blogspot.com/ including the multiple factors that will influence your offerings ratios.

Mike]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As I&#8217;ve posted on our blog and on Jake&#8217;s, I&#8217;m not so sure we should even be using this as a principle in talking to potential clients. The ratios we&#8217;ve seen and measured since 2000 are much different than this. There are far too many variables that come into play to make such a simplistic comment to someone considering a social media project.</p>
<p>Even Joe Cothrel who used our data from work with Cisco, Sony, AARP, SAP, and others in his research at Participate.com would admit that it&#8217;s a stretch to over-simplify community participation rates like this.</p>
<p>Instead, we should be focused upon how the offering (blog, community, social network, wiki, etc.) helps the client meet a tangible objective that is measurable. Then put that objective against the benchmarks of your other clients&#8217; work from a similar industry and effort to judge its effectiveness.</p>
<p>Where I do agree completely with Jake is that there is distribution of who participates and who consumes. But there is not a quick ratio that works for this stuff. Your mileage will always vary.</p>
<p>For more see our blog at <a href="http://impactinteractions.blogspot.com/" rel="nofollow">http://impactinteractions.blogspot.com/</a> including the multiple factors that will influence your offerings ratios.</p>
<p>Mike</p>
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		<title>By: Scott Dodds</title>
		<link>http://blog.angelaconnor.com/2008/12/05/whats-your-take-on-the-90-9-1-theory/#comment-370</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Scott Dodds]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Dec 2008 21:05:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I think of 90-9-1 not really as a principle in the sense that we have to believe it or not. Its more of an observation about how we have seen participation distributed across online members in the past. Could you do better in your community? Perhaps, but the key is not to plan for it or beat yourself up over it if you don&#039;t.  

The most useful aspects of 90-9-1 in my mind are threefold:

 1) If you want to increase quantity of activity in your community, it&#039;s more effective to increase the total population who visit your site than to get current members to participate more (not that you shouldn&#039;t do both, but the former will typically be more effective than the latter).

2) If you want to increase the quality of activity in your community, focus your efforts on those 1% who contribute the most.

3) If you want to find out what the total reach is of your community, be sure to count the 90% or so who are spectators as well as the 10% who are posting.

In the end, whether 90% are posting or .01% are, as Jake says above this is simply a distribution, not a measure of quality. What is important is how you can use this knowledge to help you further the goals of your community.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think of 90-9-1 not really as a principle in the sense that we have to believe it or not. Its more of an observation about how we have seen participation distributed across online members in the past. Could you do better in your community? Perhaps, but the key is not to plan for it or beat yourself up over it if you don&#8217;t.  </p>
<p>The most useful aspects of 90-9-1 in my mind are threefold:</p>
<p> 1) If you want to increase quantity of activity in your community, it&#8217;s more effective to increase the total population who visit your site than to get current members to participate more (not that you shouldn&#8217;t do both, but the former will typically be more effective than the latter).</p>
<p>2) If you want to increase the quality of activity in your community, focus your efforts on those 1% who contribute the most.</p>
<p>3) If you want to find out what the total reach is of your community, be sure to count the 90% or so who are spectators as well as the 10% who are posting.</p>
<p>In the end, whether 90% are posting or .01% are, as Jake says above this is simply a distribution, not a measure of quality. What is important is how you can use this knowledge to help you further the goals of your community.</p>
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		<title>By: Regina B</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Regina B]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Dec 2008 20:51:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I don&#039;t think the numbers are accurate for my community, but the underlying principle is quite sound.

In my community, I would probably further refine the 90% into sophisticated lurkers, those who visit the game&#039;s third party fansite forums, and unsophisticated lurkers, those who do not participate in forums at all and whose only interaction is purely the game.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t think the numbers are accurate for my community, but the underlying principle is quite sound.</p>
<p>In my community, I would probably further refine the 90% into sophisticated lurkers, those who visit the game&#8217;s third party fansite forums, and unsophisticated lurkers, those who do not participate in forums at all and whose only interaction is purely the game.</p>
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